With aknowledgement to the National Interest.
With aknowledgement to the National Interest.
With aknowledgement to the National Interest.
As alluded to in other posts , the President Elect has had a lot to say about many subjects but there is one that is causing undercurrents of dissent amongst the military and defence contractors.
He wants to ‘scrap’the F35 and will ask Boeing to produce a ‘Super’ F18. This reminds of other governments scrapping large projects, and then buying in something else years later when they realise they needed it after all. Need I say ‘Nimrod” and ‘Rivet Joint’ in the same sentence? Like our esteemed (no, not really) Tory government who scrapped the Nimrod MRA4 because of ‘cost overruns’ and extended development time, then five years later; bought an even older airframe (Nimrod Vs B707) to replace the Dimsod after leaving our shores unprotected for a considerable period; Trump says he wants to scrap the trillion dollar F35 and replace it with an airframe from the 70’s. As the website Foxtrot Alpha said:
The problem with wanting to go ahead and start saving money on the F-35 now is that, for the most part, the time to speak up was 20 years ago. Much of the trail of its bloated cost can be found in its tortured development, which itself was borne out of a deeply strange requirement. The one F-35 platform was supposed to replace a bountiful variety of planes, ranging from the fast and light F-16 Viper, to the hovering AV-8B Harrier II, to the massively armoured flying gun known as the A-10 Warthog.
So it seems they have a handle on what Trump is asking for. Of course to scrap the F35 now would be complete folly, especially as it has been ordered and partnered by 10 or more other countries besides the States, and Lockheed claim that ‘5000’ units will be ordered worldwide, which in anyone’s order book is a lot of hooley. One other side of international sales which hasn’t been taken into consideration is that the Department of Defense has stated that computer codes for the repair of the many the computer controlled equipments in the F35 would not be released to third parties, and that all such repairs would be carried out in US. This is in accordance with the ITAR codes which stipulate that any item of defence equipment sold abroad can not have any of its internal circuits available in workshop manuals for use by ‘foreign nationals’. This is because the US is maniacal about such information getting in to the wrong hands like the Russians or Chinese. It even affected the old Harrier fleet, in that ANY component which contained anything made or developed in the US, is subject to ITAR regulations. So, for example a British made component like a circuit board with for example a resistor on it that was made in the US; the whole board is subject to ITAR despite it being British made. This made it very awkward for the military and Defence Contractors who could get fined thousands of dollars for infringing ITAR. ITAR stands for International Traffic in Arms Regulations incidentally. So, the whole F35 program could be in jeopardy if 2nd tier repair organisations aren’t allowed to repair US sourced kit.
Back to Don and his fanciful ideas; it’s been stated by defense experts that the F18 would ‘never’ be able to upgraded enough to be a contender to compete with the F35s capabilities. Scrapping would cost the US economy, and any other country involved in its development and purchase a lot of angst, and also leave them without air cover for many years until an alternative can be introduced, which judging by the 20 year gestation of the F35 could leave many countries in a parlous position.
For better or worse the F35 HAS to go ahead and get into service for the sake of 1) employment in all the countries involved, 2) the horrendous cost of a replacement and most importantly 3) the lack of combat aircraft to protect ourselves.
US F35 fighters to deploy from Royal Navy aircraft carrier – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38336101
US and Royal Navy F35B to operate together from HMS Queen Elizabeth? Well, no surprises there then.
To be fair, RN personnel have been embedded with the US Navy for some time in the States, and have operated on board US Carriers with some success. It’s a good job then because when the new carriers cone into service, the R N will have to hit the floor running. When the F35B is released to service in 2018, it will have been 8 years since the RN operated fixed wing combat aircraft since the demise of the Harrier. So we could assume at least a year to work up both man and machine to become a lean, mean fighting machine. One of the problems though is recruitment, since the Navy is most affected by lack of new recruits, and the UK services generally are being cut back by successive governments. It makes one wonder if, when the HMS QE and the F35B are fully integrated whether her majesties government will increase the defence budget or as is likely it will stay the same or decrease, making it even more difficult to recruit new service personnel? The hoo-ha and trumpeting by various defence ministers are good sound bites, but they don’t bring about a call to arms.Then there is the Trump effect, how much is he for the military? He doesn’t like the last three Presidents have any military background, so is he going to be gung ho to rid Syria of IS with our or others help? The juries still out.
Video of F35 taking off and landing on a US aircraft carrier:
So, the US Navy placed 12 F35Bs on a carrier and flew them off to show and test themselves how they would work within the context of carrier borne operations. Good for them, it looked successful and the aircraft seemed to perform to expectations.
One thing I don’t get though, watching the take offs, is what are the long term stresses which are placed on that forward intake door during take off? That panel is an accident waiting to happen. It’s too late now but the Harrier design had everything being used during all phases of flight, yet the F35 carries over a ton of dead hovering weight during forward flight. What possible design concept thought that this would be a good thing to do? We’re stuck with it now.All power to the USAF for getting this trial going. But I still wonder about that front intake door.
At the RIAT air show, the outgoing prime minister signed off £4bn for the purchase of 8 Poseidon P-8A maritime patrol aircraft.
This pales into insignificance the £18bn purchase, potentially of 138 Lightening II F35B from Lockheed, including possibly the delivery of the F35A variant which us basically a Typhoon rival, and seems a bit pointless to me. This was after the flip-flop from the ‘cats and traps” version, the F35C, which can’t be used on the new aircraft carriers HMSs Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles without considerable, costly upgrades; and the final purchase the F35B. So why are we buying the F35A (quantity unkniwn)? Who knows, someone may provide an answer. Perhaps the 10 year contract to support the Typhoon may have something to do with it.
The F35Bs flown over from the USA have wowed crowds at the Farnborough air show and are now safely back at Lockheed presumably. The media were impressed with them, but that’s not usually difficult at a market stall like Farnborough. Let’s hope that the promised world wide sales make the F35 a success, it needs it.
So, they’re here at last. The Lockheed F35B, named Lightning II by the UK, flew over from the United States to appear at at least two air shows here during the summer. Flown by RAF crews and in-flight refuelled, the F35s fulfilled a promise to come to the UK, after a failure to appear in 2014, due to engine problems and an on board fire.
The F35B is the latest 4th generation VSTOL aircraft to be co-produced by a conglomerate of world companies, and is state of the art with advanced avionics and ‘low visibility’ but not stealth. At a cost of £100m a copy, 15% of which has been earmarked for British production they are not cheap, and various development problems over the last 8-10 years, have meant a late introduction into service in the UK. Two aircraft carriers, HMS Prince Charles and HMS Queen Elizabeth are currently in production and the F35 is scheduled to operate from them in 2018, when they are both put into service.
The manufacturers and procurement staff are obviously upbeat about the F35, which will always be compared to the Harrier, and is a direct replacement for it, albeit 8 years after the Harrier was taken out of service. The comparisons are valid: both are VSTOL, both have one engine and one pilot. But the comparisons end there. The Harrier was muted in the 50s, developed in the 60s, operated and improved through to the 2010s by the British and the USA and continues to be in service with the US Marine Corps, the Italian and Spanish Navies and has just been retired by the Indian Navy. The F35 was muted in the 21st century and has been developed and tested making it far superior to what was a 1950s design. It would be like slating the Vulcan bomber, designed in the 40s, to be superior to say the B1 bomber operated by the USAF. Make no mistake the F35 is a quantum leap in technology, materials, techniques, avionics, capability and performance. The Harrier was a perfect workforce for its era, and the fact that several air arms still operate it is a testament to its design and capability. The UK chose wrongly in my opinion and that of many observers around the world, to take the Harrier out of service at the end of 2010 by the new Conservative government. It meant that there was a huge capability gap before the introduction into service of the new carriers and the F35. Several times in the past 6 years there have been many occasions when a carrier with a Squadron of Harriers on board would have seriously defused a situation, like Libya, Syria etc. However it was done and there is no turning back. The UK is committed to buying 138 F35s at a cost of £1.38 billion and is a huge purchase. One could wonder whether we needed such fire power against the likes of IS with their pop guns, but they are getting more sophisticated weaponry and probably will have combat aircraft at some stage. For the kind of money we’re spending on the F35 we could have kept the Harrier and Tornado fleets in service with avionic upgrades for many years and still have had enough air cover for our needs. The reason the Harrier went out of service was because one of the two; Harrier or Tornado had to go. The Harrier for whatever reason lost, and the Tornado is now coming to the end of its life, with only the Typhoon left as the gold standard air defence aircraft for this countries protection. But a bomber it ain’t although it is now officially a muti-role aircraft, probably like F35 will be.
So the F35 is here, albeit temporarily and you can see it at RIAT Fairford where they are based in the UK during their stay, and at Farnborough International. They also flew over RAF Marham accompanied by a Tornado which is where 617 Sqn, the first F35 squadron will form. I wish them every success and good PR while they are here. They return in numbers in two years to populate a dozen squadrons eventually probably and will come to represent the RAF and the Royal Navy much as the Harrier did in its day. Bon chance.
U.K., U.S. Explore F-35 Partnership In Britain
Aviation Week & Space Technology
Jun 23, 2016
U.S., U.K. talk up training and logistics plans for joint F-35 basing in England
During the 2020s, both Britain and the U.S. will begin building up their fleets of F-35 Joint Strike Fighters (JSF) in the U.K.
The U.K. will be one of the first countries within the growing F-35 community where U.S. JSFs will be based alongside aircraft operated by other nations, and senior leaders from both countries are looking into the potential benefits this could bring.
Britain pledged in its Strategic Defense and Security Review published last November to purchase 138 aircraft, all to be based at RAFMarham, while the U.S. Air Force plans to station up to 54 F-35As at RAF Lakenheath as part of the future configuration of its 48th Fighter Wing.
Britain is working to form its first F-35B front-line squadron out of MCAS Beaufort, South Carolina, in 2018. Credit: Tony Osborne/AW&ST
As a result, Eastern England could see one of the greatest concentrations of F-35s anywhere, with as many as 192 jets located with 20 mi. between the two stations.
While achieving this full complement is at least a decade or more away, working groups have been set up to establish how the two air arms could work more closely, in areas such as training, airspace sharing, maintenance, logistics and sustainment.
“I see a huge opportunity,” said RAF Air Commo. Harvey Smyth, the U.K.’s Lightning Force commander. “We have got to look seriously at the synergies. It would be silly to do this in two separate stovepipes, particularly from a training and learning perspective,” he told a conference in London in May.
The U.K. and the U.S. have not flown the same fighter aircraft type together in the U.K. since the 1970s, when both flew the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom. The opportunity to benefit from that synergy did not last long, as the USAF quickly transitioned its aircraft at British bases to the General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark.
Today, however, the 48th Fighter Wing—the last remaining USAF combat wing based in the U.K.—is working on plans that call for two squadrons of F-35s at Lakenheath based alongside two units flying theF-15E Strike Eagle.
The decision to base F-35s at Lakenheath follows a wider restructuring of U.S. bases in Europe. The first F-35s are expected to arrive in late 2021.
The U.K. will get its aircraft three years earlier, with the first front-line squadron, 617 Sqn, due to formally reactivate in early 2018 in the U.S. before moving back to Marham in the summer of that year. The U.K. also will establish a training squadron, or Operational Conversion Unit, that will begin work there during 2019. The second British front-line squadron, 809 Naval Air Sqn, is not due to form until April 2023. Eventually the U.K. plans to have four front-line F-35 squadrons, all at Marham.
The two nations have established steering and working groups to meet in a quarterly forum designed to maximize benefits from the partnership. Co-chairs are a United States Air Forces Europe (USAFE) major and an RAF squadron leader.
“It is not just about logistics and sustainment, it is across the board.It is operations, maintenance, and it is training. You name it, we are looking at it,” explains Lt. Col. Tim Trimmell, deputy director of USAFE in the U.K. “We are figuring out what makes sense and how to operate together.”
An obvious benefit is an idea to network the planned F-35 simulators at both Lakenheath and Marham so USAF and U.K. Lightning Force crews can train together despite sitting 20 mi. apart. There are a number of network and security issues to overcome, however.
Trimmell says there may not be many opportunities to share maintenance, although the two nations will be able to cross-service each other’s aircraft in the event that a USAF F-35 has to land at Marham or a U.K. JSF at a U.S. base. However, the USAF is eyeing the potential of training some of its maintenance personnel at facilities planned for Marham.
“Marham is buying a good number of the high-end training devices, which the USAF has decided not to buy, just because we have the aircraft to train on,” explains Trimmell. “Some of the things they are buying are beneficial to us because [they let] us keep our aircraft on schedule and in the mix rather than having to pull them off the schedule and use them for training.”
The USAF plans to base 54 F-35s at RAF Lakenheath along with two squadrons of F-15E Strike Eagles (pictured). A substantial proportion of USAF airpower will be based in the U.K. in the mid to late 2020s. Credit: Tony Osborne/AW&ST
Airspace for training is likely to present a major challenge, however. With adding more combat aircraft to Lakenheath and airspace availability being squeezed to allow more and more commercial flights, RAF commanders are increasingly concerned about where live-flying training can take place, potentially pushing large-force training into the simulator environment or overseas.
“Often we would de-conflict with the F-15s at Lakenheath and do our own training in a stovepipe,” Smyth said. “Now we are looking at how we can do that more joined up in terms of the limited airspace we have got.
“In the good old days . . . we could put 40-50-60 aircraft into Scotland and run a pretty good joined-up exercise, and everyone would have their own piece of airspace, and we’d get lots of good training out of it,” Smyth explained.
“I can pretty much take up that same airspace with an F-35 four-ship, so when we start talking about putting multiple four-ships out of Marham or Lakenheath, the U.K. simply isn’t big enough,” he pointed out. “If the U.K. itself was a range, we would struggle.”
Smyth also suggested some elements of training were being handicapped by security concerns over the potential of adversaries listening to electronic emissions.
“Our Typhoon force is already strongly handcuffed,” because of “collectors sitting in the North Sea,” he said. “We are keen not to give away our crown jewels.”
The U.K. has already begun work on preparing the base at Marham for nearly £500 million ($735 million) worth of new infrastructure, which has to be ready for the F-35’s arrival in 2018.
In April, a £142 million contract was signed with Lockheed Martin andBAE Systems to construct centers for logistics operations, integrated training, and maintenance and final finishes responsible for upkeep on the aircraft and its low-observability stealth coatings.
The three facilities will be key elements in meeting the U.K.’s requirement for a so-called Freedom of Action capability allowing Britain to conduct F-35 operations independently. Two additional contracts are to be signed later for the building of hangars, offices and technical facilities, aircraft shelters, servicing platforms and three vertical landing pads, plus the refurbishment of runways, taxiways and hardened aircraft shelters.
Design work for the new facilities at Lakenheath is set to begin in fiscal 2018, so construction can begin in 2019 on a new squadron operations building and maintenance facilities, as well as weather shelters and a simulator building.
“We have 55% of the air force combat aircraft in Europe at this base; it makes sense to come here,” explains Col. Robert Novotny, commander of the 48th Fighter Wing. “We have the capacity and the culture to take on more aircraft.”
As well as the new facilities, Lakenheath will receive an additional 1,200 personnel to support the F-35.
“It makes sense for the USAF to get it right in the U.S.: bedding it down in the continental U.S. first, and then we are ready to go overseas,” Novotny says. “You want to get it right when you come overseas.”
The U.K. will not be the only country where U.S. F-35s will be based alongside those from foreign nations. Similar opportunities exist in Japan, South Korea and Italy, if the U.S. decides to put the F-35 into its bases there.
The U.K. also is working closely with the U.S. Marine Corps, and it is likely the service’s F-35Bs will operate from Britain’s new Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers as mentioned in the Marines’ 2016 Aviation Plan.
Officers from both countries believe there is potential in the new relationships that could emerge with both countries operating the F-35, even down to closer integration of exchange officers, according to Novotny.
“The goal would be that, ideally, after the aircraft are all settled, an American pilot who lives at Lakenheath—whose kids go to school there—gets in his car, goes to Marham and flies an F-35B as an exchange pilot; and an RAF pilot—whose family lives at Marham—drives to Lakenheath and flies an ‘A’ model,” says Novotny.
“Everybody likes that idea. It’s a long way off, but at least we are talking about those things.”
Posting as:Clive H
To that viewer who noticed I have changed the title of this blog.
There are various reasons for this; When I started it out it was Bring Back the Harrier, because I thought at the time, and still do, that the decision to rid the UK of it’s Harrier force was the daftest thing any government (save the Labour government who scrapped the TSR2), could do to it’s armed air force. It caused a lot of angst and upset amongst the aviation fraternity, the reasons for which have been well dissected and discussed on this forum and many others. Now I am forced to change my slant mainly because there is not a cat in hell’s chance of us having a Harrier force again. It’s been over five years since they were taken out of service and sold to the US, and they now languish in the desert being slowly stripped to provide spares for the 300 or so Harrier still in US Marine Corps service. So I bow to the impossibility of the Harrier being in service in the UK ever again. Hence the domain name of the blog page remains the same but, I am now changing my slant to encompass fully the introduction of the F35B (Lightning II) into Royal Air Force and Royal Navy service.
I have tried to remain balanced in my view and try to present good news as well as the bad, in examining the probity of buying an aircraft like the F35B, which is practically wholly American designed and built, although there are some parts of the airframe being manufactured in the UK. In my view the whole concept of the design was wrong but we have what we have, and we’re stuck with that layout. There doesn’t seem to be a way back now so let’s try to examine in more detail what this aircraft is all about, and to this end I shall still be gleaning news items from all sources (except the Daily Fail), and letting my reader know the whys and wherefores of the introduction and in-service trials and tribulations of the Lightning II. If you have any news or stories, serious ones only, please let me know.
Oh how I wish this was a headline concerning the UK:
Yes I know its crying over split milk, but now five years later the UK government are now trying to rectify the bad decisions they made in 2010. See BBC news.
Harriers Deployed In Fight Against IS
US Marine AV-8B Harrier jets have joined the fight against IS.
5 years after America bought all of Britain’s 77 Harrier aircraft for the sum of £110 million, the jets are now being deployed against the so-called Islamic State in Syria. (Eds note: actually they’re not using UK Harriers in this way, only for spares).
More From Forces.tv: Where Are They Now? Once-Mighty Harrier Fleet Languishes
Launching from American aircraft carrier USS Kearsarge, Lt. Col. Brian T Koch, commanding officer of the Marine Medium Tillrotor Squadron, based on the ship and in charge of the Harrier fleet, said:
“We will continue to work with our coalition partners to drive ISIL out of Iraq and Syria. We operate around the clock to defend America, and to keep our families at home safe.”
The Kearsarge Amphibious Ready Group along with their coalition partners “are here to degrade and destroy ISIL’s current operations under OIR,” said Capt. Augustus P. Bennett, commander of the Group.
“The combined ARG-MEU team is an expeditionary Navy/Marine Corps force that stands ready and has been trained for these types of operations. We’re here to assure our allies, deter any adversaries and provide a persistent U.S. presence here in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations.”
You can find it here in the UK, but look out for it elsewhere. Its a hatchet job on the governments defence cuts and spending. Well researched and presented.